NBN Internet Outage

NBN Splitter Boxes

What Happened to Your Internet

After a lightning storm on Saturday 31 October, there were several reports of intermittent internet issues which ranged from drop-outs to slowdowns for about 10 days.

Several NBN technicians worked on site to fix individual unit connections.

Then at about 2:00pm on Thursday 12th November, half our building lost all internet.

Investigations by some committee discovered that one of the two grey boxes shown above, was nice and warm, and the other was cold.

The one on the left was the cold one and it served the whole West tower of Waves. Several owners were advised to let their internet suppliers know what we had discovered. Sadly there is no direct phone number for contacting NBN.

Due to the number of calls to NBN retailers, the NBN dispatched a pair of technicians who turned up at about 6:30pm Thursday evening. They set to work on replacing the faulty splitter and had the job completed by about 9:00pm.

The splitter unit on the right as shown supplies the east tower. It will likely fail at some stage but the crew were not interested in replacing both units until the next one fails.

Several people who do work from home at present were adversely affected by the outage.

Strangely, the splitter units are old Optus supplied equipment and bought by NBN. The NBN technicians reported that the company that manufactured them had been closed for about five years.

The new unit installed Thursday is a more compact model by another company.

Fingers crossed that the right hand splitter continues to work.

 

 

NBN at WAVES

New Fibre Optic

Today, 13-Feb-2019, I found a technician joining a new fibre optic cable at a pit at the south end of Sutton Street. I spoke to him briefly and he says it is a backbone fibre and will run all the way up Sutton Street.

Whilst we have HFC NBN at Waves, it may one day enable us to get the faster FTTB (Fibre to the Building) NBN and gigabit speeds.

Fibre on Sutton

September 2018 - Now Available

I checked today (29-Sept-2018) and I see that the NBN Co has recommenced new NBN connections for us here at Waves.

For first time NBN connections, be advised that the present cabling for your unit is only to the stage of a coiled up Coax lead that has been poked through the firewall above your Unit front door. It is accessible from the first light fitting, just inside your unit.

Any NBN installer will need to know that information about the cable in the previous paragraph. You will also need to decide where you want your NBN wall outlet. This is where your modem and phone (if any) will be located once installed, so plan carefully. It will also need to be near a power outlet.

The installers will extend the cable to where you want it, though in some cases you may have to be firm and demanding as to the location you want.

Choosing an NBN Retailer for Internet Service

When connecting to the NBN, you need to do so through an NBN retailer.

There are many of these, and they are not all the same. The biggest is Telstra, so if you are planning to go with Telstra, or your existing ADSL provider, then that would be the simplest route.

If you are searching around for a new provider, then be aware that most of them you will find are simply re-sellers.

One exception to this is a smaller Telco company, AussieBroadband.    AussieBB provide a great service with value for money. They also use only Australian Based help centres, so if you have an issue, it is more easily dealt with.

 

Choosing a VOIP Telephone Provider

When moving to the NBN, if you want a landline phone, you will be moving to a VoIP ( Voice over Internet Protocol) service. Your existing telephone line will disappear.

All existing phone landlines in Redcliffe will be disconnected at the end of June, 2019.

If you are planning to move from your existing phone line supplier, then consider using MyNetFone for your VoIP line. If you are keeping your NBN with your existing telco, then simplest is to keep your phone line with them.

But if you are moving from one provider to another for your NBN, then it is a good idea use separate providers for your NBN internet, and for your VoIP service. That way you can move one or the other between providers at any stage in the future.

Want to keep your existing phone number? Then the number can be "ported" across to your VoIP provider. Mostly this is with no charge, but sometimes may cost you a few dollars.

Any existing physical phone handset will work with VoIP, so no need for new phones.

 

AussieBroadBand


If you choose AussieBroadBand, (my chosen supplier and I can recommend them) then you can get the first month FREE by signing up online at aussiebroadband

For the free month it’s important that during the online signup process you enter the promo code WPFREEMONTH in the final stage of the check out process. This goes in the promo code field. With AussieBroadBand, there is no long term contract. They are not re-sellers but have their own direct connections to the NBN network. Their excellent phone support is all based in Australia.

Good luck. John, Unit 15

August 2018 Update

The NBN Co has announced that they will re-commence new HFC NBN connections in the Redcliffe area commencing late September 2018. Once we are able to confirm the availability of new connections we will post a message here.

A few units have had NBN now for several months, and it is very reliable and you are able to subscribe at higher speeds than those available with the legacy ADSL.

 

 

April 10th Update Announcement

Today (10-April-2018) the NBN Co announced that they would re-commence new HFC NBN connections in the Brisbane area commencing late June. It is not known yet if this will include the Redcliffe area, but it looks likely.

I have had NBN now for several months, and subscribed to the fastest available speed package of 100/40. There has only been two short outages that I have noticed since November. Each outage was less than 10 minutes.

(John Griffiths, Unit 15)

 

NBN to Suspend New HFC Connections

You may have read a press release from Monday Nov 27th where NBN have announced they are to suspend all new HFC nbn connections until they investigate and fix some reported network issues. Here is one report... Computerworld Article 

The announcement said that the suspension comes into effect immediately.
But there is still time if you wish to get onto the NBN network sooner than about 6-9 months from now.

Providers have been told that orders lodged by December 11th will be connected, but no new orders can be lodged after that date.
Some providers are still taking orders. So try contacting your chosen NBN provider ASAP and see if they will take your order now. If they won't, then I suggest you try AussieBroadBand as I know they are continuing to take orders until the deadline December 11th.

NBN Cabling and Socket Placement

Feedback from Waves Units

Below is feedback from various units. Please let us know how your installation goes.

Unit 31 Completed

26-Oct-2017 Update:  The NBN internet has now been successfully connected to Barry and Lorrie McNamara of Unit 31. Barry reports that the speed is as his internet supplier advertised.

So far as we know, Unit 31 is the first unit in Waves to connect to the NBN. Well done Barry and Lorrie. It was a long hard road 🙂

Barry is happy to show any residents how his cabling was installed. Please see the Contacts page for his details.

The photo below shows the vent the NBN installers added to the ceiling in the laundry to allow them to run the cable down inside the wall. Neat job.

Vent in Laundry

 

 

Barry and Lorrie of Unit 31 had their NBN cabling installed by NBN installers on October 12th. Barry reports that the installers did a great job and were able to add his NBN socket where he wanted, in his Study area. The installers ran the cabling across the ceiling space by threading it from light fitting to light fitting.
By cutting a small hole in the ceiling of the laundry just behind the study wall, they were able to feed the cable down the inside of the wall cavity to where the socket was wanted.

The small hole in the ceiling was then finished off with a small vent cover. Time taken: approximately 2.5 hours.

There was no extra charge to the unit owners.

 

Unit 15

John and Candace, unit 15 have had the cabling completed, by a private cabler, ready for the NBN technician to attach the necessary HFC Cable modem. We plan for that to happen late November, as we will be away until about then.

The layout plan for our unit made it possible for our cable to be routed through the ceiling space to the laundry. Then it runs down the laundry wall in a neat channel, and then through the wall to a wallplate in our study area. Time taken by the cabler to do the job was about 4 hours. Getting access to the laundry ceiling space was a fluke, as the wall gyprock panels seem to go all the way up to the concrete above.  There was one small opening we finally found where a previous electrician had created a hole in the gyprock wall within the ceiling cavity between the Study and Laundry.

Update:  December 11 2017

NBN was installed today. We have temporarily opted for the fastest available speed 100/40 as supplied by AussieBroadBand.

So far we are very happy with the NBN as installed.

John Griffiths, U15

 

 

Getting NBN Connected

You May Need a New Wireless Router

When we all connect to the NBN we each most likely need to buy a new router with more features that that we currently use for any ADSL internet connection.  Reason being, is that our WiFi ADSL modems will need to connect to a WAN (Wide Area Network) connection Socket 5 on the graphic above.. This will be a data cable (RJ45) that will connect from the NBN Cable Modem (which NBN will be providing and installing and configuring at no cost).  We will not “own” that cable modem and it would remain in place should we ever move out. It is part of the NBN infrastructure.

The next piece in the chain is out WiFi  router to which we will connect our phone, our computers, our T-Box, our smart TV  or any appliance that needs an internet connection. This might be by a WiFi connection or by a network cable (again, an RJ45 cable) – connections labelled 4 above.

Read enough technical stuff ? Don’t give up, there is more to come.

 

So You Want a Phone

The old standard phone line as we have known it for many decades, is going to go away.
In approximately 18 months, it will be disconnected permanently. If you don’t use a Landline phone now, but rely on Mobile phones, you will not notice this change.  But your present ADSL internet connection if you have one will be using the standard phone landline connection.

The replacement for the landline phone is a VoIP (Voice Over Internet Protocol) phone, and for this you will need a modem/router that is capable of a VoIP connection. In the graphic at the top, your phone would plug into a socket such as those shown at item 6.

If you sign up for a longer term contract with your internet supplier, they will usually include the necessary Voip router as part of the plan.

If you sign up for a Month-to-Month contract, you will likely need to buy your own Voip enabled wireless router from your internet provider as part of the sign-up process with them. There are about 150 different internet providers, each trying to offer different packages. I do not want to suggest any in particular, but make your own enquiries.

Your NBN Cable Modem

The NBN will supply an Arris Cable Modem as shown on the right. It will connect to the NBN cable outlet that the NBN technicians will install for you.

The cable modem will have a small power adapter which supplies it with 12 volt power. 

Measurements for the cable modem are: (H x W x D) : 132 x 44 x 132 mm. It is designed to sit vertically, but should also work if laid flat and there was some gap for air flow to keep it cool. 

Download the Modem Manual

This photo shows the rear of the modem where all connections are made.

RJ12 - RJ45 Differences

Above we show the two types of cable connections used for phones and networks.

The smaller one ( RJ12) with up to 6 connectors is used to connect phone appliances. It would be used in sockets 6 and/or 7 in the router shown at the top.

The  larger one ( RJ45 ) will have 8 connectors, and is used for network connections. This one can be used to carry a lot of data, way more than you will get from your internet connection. RJ45 cables would connect to sockets numbered  4 and 5 in the router shown at the top.

NBN Update September 2017

Update Monday 25-Sept. Several NBN suppliers now confirm that the service is available. These include Telstra, Optus, TPG, AussieBroadBand.


 Update Friday 22-Sept. There are a couple of owners who have been advised by different NBN suppliers that an NBN connection is now available at The Waves. A check of the NBN website does not yet confirm that, but that may just be because they have not yet updated their web site. More details will be posted here as more concrete information becomes available.

 


 

On Friday September 15 2017 there was a public meeting, organised by the local Federal representative, Luke Howarth, held at the Redcliffe RSL.

Several “Waves” residents were present and the meeting was filled to capacity.

There were presentations from representatives for the NBN, for Telstra, and for Optus.

Very little new information was presented, but the question time did provide some hope that we will get good quality internet service from our NBN connection when it becomes available.

At the end of the meeting, there was a chance to ask location specific questions of the NBN representatives. This I did and after queuing for about 10 minutes I had a chance to enquire as to the present status of the NBN connection here at Waves. here is what I was told;

  1. Some apartment buildings in our area have been changed from the HFC (Hybrid Fibre Cable) connection to the FTTB (Fibre To The Building). I was told that 17 Marine Parade is NOT one of those switched to FTTB.
  2. We will continue to be served using HFC. The connection is not yet available, but could be soon. No specific date is available yet, but Owners will be contacted by service providers once it is made available by NBN.
  3. The reason we have not yet been connected is for technical reasons and they (the NBN) has been working to overcome reported problems of current HFC users. To this end, the NBN are adding more coaxial cable runs in our area so as to reduce the number of households connected to any one cable section.
  4. Once our building connection is further tested and it meets necessary speed/capacity specifications we will be “switched on”.
  5. The connection to each unit will be via the coaxial cable NBN have already installed and which is in the ceiling just inside the front door of each unit, near the first light fitting.  See update note below .
  6. The HFC connection we will soon get, will be upgraded sometime by the end of 2018 to a much faster technology (DOCSIS3.1). Discover more about DOCSIS here

Regarding item 5 above:- (My opinion here) If you sign up NBN and have not pre-arranged to have a registered cabler install the necessary small wall-plate and coax terminus in your unit where YOU want it installed, then it is likely that when an NBN installer calls to do the install, the wall-plate will be installed near the power point closest to your front door. That lead-in is likely to be run down your wall in a conduit and be visible and unsightly.

If you want the new outlet close to where you have your current Modem/Phone/Computer, then you should organise the cabling before requesting an NBN service. Yes, it will cost you $$$s, but you will be assured of a connection where you want it and as neat and tidy as possible.

 Update Tues 3rd October.

Unit 15 has had the cabling completed, ready for the NBN technician to attach the necessary HFC modem. We plan for that to happen late November, as we will be away until about then.  The layout plan for our unit made it possible for our cable to be routed through the ceiling space to the laundry, Then it runs down the laundry wall in a neat channel, and then through the wall to a wallplate in our study area. Time taken by the cabler was 4 hours. Getting access to the laundry ceiling space was a fluke, as the wall panels seem to go all the way up to the concrete above.  There was one small opening we finally found where a previous electrician had created a hole.

John Griffiths, U15

NBN Update

Update: Aug 22, 2017.. A recent set of tests of a connection using a replaced splitter box in the Electrical Room in Ground Floor Garage was done about six weeks ago. It may still have shown speed problems and so we still need to wait for NBN co to write to us when all is ready. Yesterday NBN co announced that they would be conducting testing in four locations around Australia next February using the latest HFC (Hybrid Fibre Cable) connections using the DOCsis 3.1 transmission. Maybe we will be one of those locations??? If so, then we will be assured of very fast broadband speeds.



There has been recent NBN activity along Marine Pde, heading this way from around Mon Komo.

It looks as if they are getting ready to bring the fibre optic cable along the street and maybe soon we will have an NBN connection to the building.  The present indication is that we will get to use the Coaxial cable installed last year that was left coiled up in the ceiling in front of each apartment entrance.

More details will be sent direct to each unit owner in due course by the NBNco.
All the apartment blocks along Marine Pde are awaiting the new connection.

JohnG

In-House NBN Info

Lorraine and Bruce have offered to help residents with a range of telecom services, including NBN advice and support.

See their notice above or on the notice board in ground floor car park.

 

We do still need to wait until we each get a confirmation from the NBN Co that our connection is available.
In the meantime, enjoy the present internet connection (ADSL or Cable) that you currently enjoy as there are problems reported with slow speeds and drop-outs in the Redcliffe area after conversion.

NBN Internet

Waves was chosen as a test case for Hybrid Fibre Cable (HFC) NBN connection back in 2015.
The building was wired internally, and in mid 2016 the connecting cable was laid from the Switchboard Room to the cable that runs along Marine Parade.
Then, the masters in control discovered that there was not sufficient capability of existing street cables to handle 60 apartments.

As of early March, 2017, ( as the graphic from the NBN site shows) it looks like it has gone back to the drawing board, and the building will eventually get a fibre connection all the way to the electrical switchboard room.

How each apartment is then connected to the fibre is yet to be determined.
JohnG
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What Will Be Different with the NBN?

With NBN there will be the choice to pay a few dollars extra each month and get much faster internet.
There will be different download and upload speeds available.

It is the Download speed that you will appreciate the most.

Options will be:

25Mb/second (A bit faster than present ADSL2 which you likely have)
50Mb/second
100/Mb/second